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Old 07-31-2010, 10:57 PM
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They'd still be over the cap if they'd waived Huet and kept Versteeg and Cartma Byfuglien with no room to re-sign Ladd. They traded their third-line and made out like bandits IMO.
I agree, they got very good returns for all those players.
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:04 PM
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IMO, it would have been better to dump huet, and then work from there. maybe they wouldn't had to have traded all 3 of them?
I repeat, they'd still be over the cap ($55m for CHI this year) by $4m if they'd have just waived Huet and kept Versteeg and Tons of Fun. Ladd was RFA remember?

Instead, they traded them for a pretty damn decent return.
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I repeat, they'd still be over the cap ($55m for CHI this year) by $4m if they'd have just waived Huet and kept Versteeg and Tons of Fun. Ladd was RFA remember?

Instead, they traded them for a pretty damn decent return.

i didn't say they had to keep versteeg and buff.
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:14 PM
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Big buff was the flue to their top line in the playoffs and versteeg was very good on the 2nd line. Yes they got good returns but they lost a lot from their team right now. You need depth to win. Ask Tampa, Ottawa, Anaheim etc.
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Ottawa?

How does Ottawa have depth?
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Ottawa?

How does Ottawa have depth?
I think that was his point.
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I think that was his point.
But both of the other teams have won cups in the past 5/6 years. Anaheim just recently.
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:27 PM
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Players like Versteeg and Fatso might help you go far in the playoffs but players like Sharp are more important getting there.

My guess is that CHI are resigned (not re-signed) to not being a contender again for a few years. Thus they traded Kris and Lard-Arse and stay competitive if not threatening.
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But both of the other teams have won cups in the past 5/6 years. Anaheim just recently.
Anaheim won against Ottawa...

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Players like Versteeg and Fatso might help you go far in the playoffs but players like Sharp are more important getting there.

My guess is that CHI are resigned (not re-signed) to not being a contender again for a few years. Thus they traded Kris and Lard-Arse and stay competitive if not threatening.
For sure, which is the reason they traded the other 2 and not him.
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Big buff was the flue to their top line in the playoffs and versteeg was very good on the 2nd line. Yes they got good returns but they lost a lot from their team right now. You need depth to win. Ask Tampa, Ottawa, Anaheim etc.
Tampa has depth up front, too bad their defense and goaltending is terrible.
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Tampa has depth up front, too bad their defense and goaltending is terrible.
That's the point though. They've done well to re-gain depth upfront but they still haven't done anything to add depth to the defence or to the goaltending.

They had a top goalie at the time in khabibulin and a top defenseman in boyle leading the back end. Theyhavenr replaced either.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:44 AM
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That's the point though. They've done well to re-gain depth upfront but they still haven't done anything to add depth to the defence or to the goaltending.

They had a top goalie at the time in khabibulin and a top defenseman in boyle leading the back end. Theyhavenr replaced either.
They've tried, but failed. Carle would have been good in Tampa if they didn't trade him 12 games in for Eminger and Downie.
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chicago's so fucked.


one more piece gone.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:13 AM
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My gut says CHI will match the arb. award.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:58 AM
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My gut says CHI will match the arb. award.
Ok, so we can all be sure that Niemi will be a free agent in a couple days.
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My question is where does he go if Chicago walks away from him? I'd say the Islanders, Lightning and Oilers might have high interest in him if they have the cap space, seeing as how their goaltending is all questionable for the coming season.
I agree with all the teams you listed and I'd add San Jose to the list
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That's the point though. They've done well to re-gain depth upfront but they still haven't done anything to add depth to the defence or to the goaltending.

They had a top goalie at the time in khabibulin and a top defenseman in boyle leading the back end. Theyhavenr replaced either.
While I don't exactly love the look of their team from a defensive perspective, I think they have in fact replaced Boyle. Unless disaster strikes, Hedman should turn out to be as good and likely better.
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TSN reported that Chi offered Turco a contract, appears like Niemi will indeed be a free agent.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:16 AM
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In my opinion, Niemi wasn't an integral part of Chicago winning a Stanley Cup. The two finalists this year built strong teams in front of their goaltenders. It has been discussed at length in the hockey world that the day of the $6 M goalie is dwindling and that teams may look to a reliable puck stopper as opposed to a game changer.

I think you can substitute Niemi with a few other guys and Chicago would have still gotten the job done.
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:11 AM
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Jesus, Junior Bowman. Just get off the schnide already and trade Patrick Sharp to us for Mikhail Stefanovich and a conditional 6th round pick next year.
Deal .
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Ah hell no...they have to take grabs
Dude, when offered Sharp, one does not demand impossible things.
You just say yes.
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The Rockford IceHogs. It makes a lot more sense for CHI to send Huet down than it does to trade Sharp for peanuts.
Stop crushing my dreams
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That's the point though. They've done well to re-gain depth upfront but they still haven't done anything to add depth to the defence or to the goaltending.

They had a top goalie at the time in khabibulin and a top defenseman in boyle leading the back end. Theyhavenr replaced either.
Well, they've got Kubina now. So they'll win another cup this or next year.
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